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Charsee
05-04-2008, 09:35 AM
How would you use this in an emergency shelter situation?

Where would you find it?

texasgal
05-05-2008, 11:19 AM
It's poisonous so why would you want it? I certainly wouldn't think we should have it in a survival situation where kids could get into it. Anyone know why we might need something this dangerous? :ack2:

Charsee
05-05-2008, 01:44 PM
Fortunately I don't have young children I have to worry about. I know that my great-grandmother used something like this in her yard to "disinfect" it from animal droppings. She felt it made her yard more sanitary...don't know if that was successful or not.

I believe that you use it for sanitation? you urinate in one container and do do the drier stuff in a second container and then put this on top to keep the stink down? Don't know if that is right which is why I am asking. Also: How much do you use? How do you keep it...airtight container? What if you get it on you? What do you do with it when you get out of your shelter, etc.

I believe you would use this in a quarantine situation if the water isn't working, if you have to shelter in place in case of chemical leak or poison, or in a bomb shelter without facilities, right?

ghostcat
05-05-2008, 03:49 PM
Charsee,

I think you might be thinking of quick lime, not chlorinated lime. They have been used for a lot of the same things, but based on my reading the chlorinated could be dangerous in enclosed places.


chlorinated lime

A mixture (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?mixture) of varying (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?varying) proportions (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?proportions) of complexes (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?complexes) of chlorine (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?chlorine) with calcium oxide (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?calcium+oxide)calcium hydroxide (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?calcium+hydroxide). Contains 24-37% available chlorine. Decomposes (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?Decomposes) in moist (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?moist) conditions (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?conditions) to liberate chlorine. Strong (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?Strong) irritant (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?irritant) due to chlorine vapors (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?vapors). Used for disinfecting drinking water (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?water), sewage (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?sewage) etc.; in the bleaching (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?bleaching) of wood (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?wood)pulp (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?pulp), linen, cotton (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?cotton), straw (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?straw), oils (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?oils), soaps (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?soaps), and laundry; as an oxidizer; in destroying caterpillars; and as a decontaminate for mustard gas (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?mustard+gas) and similar (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?similar)substances (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?substances).
Synonym: bleaching powder (http://128.240.24.212/cgi-bin/omd?bleaching+powder).

Quick Lime

slaked lime (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaked_lime), Ca(OH)2 (mineral name: portlandite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portlandite)), it is used in mortar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortar_%28masonry%29) and plaster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaster) to increase the rate of hardening as well as to improve adhesion[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]. Hydrated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrate) lime is very simple to make as lime is a basic anhydride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anhydride) and reacts vigorously with water (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water). Lime is also used in glass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass) production and its ability to react with silicates is also used in modern metal production (steel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel), magnesium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium), aluminium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium) and other metals) industries to remove impurities as slag (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slag). It is also used in water and sewage treatment to reduce acidity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid), to soften, as a flocculant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flocculation), and to remove phosphates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphate) and other impurities; in paper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper) making to dissolve lignin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lignin), as a coagulant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coagulant), and in bleaching (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bleach); in agriculture to improve acidic soils (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil); and in pollution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution) control, in gas scrubbers to desulfurize (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfur) waste gases and to treat many liquid effluents. It has traditionally been used in the burial of bodies in open graves, to hide the smell of decomposition, as well as in forensic science, to reveal fingerprints. It is a refractory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractory) and a dehydrating agent and is used to purify citric acid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citric_acid), glucose (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose), dyes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dye) and as a CO2 absorber. It is also used in pottery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pottery), paints (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paint) and the food industry. Furthermore, quicklime is used in epidemics, plagues, and disasters to disintegrate bodies in order to help fight the spread of disease. CaO is a key ingredient in the nixtamalization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixtamalization) process used to create corn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maize) hominy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hominy) and masa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masa) or tortilla dough. Also, in usage for the Holocaust, several inches of this powder were placed in the bottom of cattle cars prior to loading in Jews and other victims of Nazi roundups.
I would be real concerned about something that gives off chlorine gas when wet.

thor610
05-06-2008, 06:20 AM
Yes, I was thinking quick lime too. Not chlorinated.

thermocouple
05-16-2008, 12:03 PM
Slaked lime is sometime also called Calcium Hydroxide, which is where the mexican term "cal" comes from. If you walk into a mexican market and ask for slaked lime or quick lime they will look at you funny, if you ask for Cal they will point it out. It's also called Hydrated Lime, which is where the confusion with Chlorinated Lime may have come from.