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    I got a text from my wife this morning: Mom said you told her that you dont believe in creeds. What did you mean?
    Alright Gloworms, I dont recall saying that. None the less I object to the Churches(Lutheran in Mom-in-laws case) recitation of Apostle's Creed and the Nicene Creed, not so much on theological grounds, but by the way they are given a scriptural reverence and yet they were statements written by men. The creeds were formulated with good intent, that is to codify just what it is that early Christians believed, yet now it has become an empty ritual for many as they recite it mechanically without really understanding what it means.

    This is what Prophet Joseph Smith said about their creeds:
    “.... and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt” (Joseph Smith – History 1:19).
    Now to my questions:
    1) Articles of Faith 1:1 are scriptures so therefore are acceptable for inclusion in Church service, correct?
    2) Are the Articles recited in LDS meetings? Just curious, Lutherans recite various creeds routinely, while the evangelical or non denominational churches rarely do.
    3) While the Nicene Creed is incompatible with LDS doctrine; according to one LDS author i found, the Apostles Creed should be acceptable to Mormons as long as "catholic Church" is clearly defined as "true Christianity". (not really a question, but give me your thoughts) FYI, the Apostles creed is vague enough to be acceptable to Unitarians and Oneness Pentecostals supposedly.
    4)The Joseph Smith quote above was cited by what appears to be an "anti" site as a sort of gotcha...."why would the Apostles creed be an abomination if the LDS Church claims to agree with its points?" How do you respond to the critic who posed this question? My answer would be that the creeds are not abomination based strictly on content, they are abomination if for no other reason than that they were composed by men and are now given reverence and value as if they were scriptures sent from God. (I didnt verbatim quote from that site to avoid giving them a reference on GLO. Any admins or moderators that would like to read it in context can PM me for the link)
    5)I cant imagine that the subject of creeds came up at random. Raise your hand if you think my wife got sucked into another uncomfortable conversation with her Mom about why we should come back to the Lutheran Church?
    In the midst of this war of words and tumult of opinions, I often said to myself: What is to be done? Who of all these parties are right; or, are they all wrong together? If any one of them be right, which is it, and how shall I know it? -Joseph Smith

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